Nominations Clarification 1

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Nominations Clarification 1

Here is a little FAQ about Nominations Clarification posts for those of you who haven't run into them before:

What/why is a Nominations Clarification post?

Nomination clarifications are queries about tags we find confusing and updates about tags or the tagset in general. The goal of nominations is to create a tagset of unambiguous, easy to understand tags that will be useful to participants and solidly within the scope of the exchange. The goal of a clarifications post is to keep all of our participants up-to-date regarding our nominations work and solicit feedback where necessary to create the most useful tagset we can.

Do I need to read the whole post?

No. You can just skim each clarification post to see if a fandom you're interested in requesting or offering has been mentioned. We recommend doing this even if you don't care very much how the tagset is organized in case we make some kind of huge blunder with your favorite fandom or OTP.

How do I reply to a Nominations Clarification post? Do I need a Dreamwidth account?

You don't need a Dreamwidth account because we have anonymous commenting turned on. If you comment anonymously, remember to check back for our reply! You can also email us at ficinaboxmod@gmail.com if you'd prefer.

There's a query about a fandom I'm familiar with, but I'm not the nominator. Can I tell you what I think?

Yes! If you are not the nominator but have relevant fandom knowledge about something, please speak up. Nominators don't always reply to our queries, so answers from other people in the fandom are often very helpful.

Why haven't you processed my nomination(s) yet?

Nominations can't be processed in a strictly first-in, first-out manner because of various backend reasons, so most likely we just haven't yet had a chance because of the large volume of submitted nominations. Double check our nominations clarification posts for your tag. If sign ups open and one or more of your tags is mysteriously still missing, please reach out.

My AO3 tagset nomination(s) were rejected but aren't discussed below, why did you reject them?

Most likely you failed to disambiguate your nominations, or made some other error — we reject incorrect tags rather than fixing them. You're welcome to post a link to your nominations slate if you'd like us to tell you why the tag(s) were rejected. You can attempt to re-nominated tags either on AO3 or via the form if you'd like.

However, there is a delay between us rejecting and us posting nominations clarifications! Literally as I post this post, other people on the tagmod team are approving/rejecting new tags. So your rejected tag might show up in a future clarification post

I have a nominations question not answered here or on the Nomination Guidelines. Can I ask on this post?

Yes! You can ask nominations questions on whichever nominations clarification post has been most recently posted, or you can ask on the Nomination Guidelines, or you can use the mod contact post, or you can email us. We're happy to help no matter how you get in contact!

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Medium Update

Before we move on to queries and rejections, we have a little medium update!

We've reviewed the "Typeset of a Recipient's Fanfiction" Unique Rules medium and made a few adjustments!

• The title of the ruleset has changed to just Typeset to allow for non-fanfiction typeset nominations (any new nominations must still contain "Recipient's"). The only nominated typeset tag has not been altered.
• We've changed the equivalents from a flat 500/1000 base credit to a rolling 300 credit per 1k words of original fic credit that's capped at 2k equivalent.
• We've clarified that all images counting for credit must be illustrated.
• We've clarified that typesets must contain at minimum a simple front page
• We've simplified the illustrated equivalents to: Remove frontispiece (this can just count as a full page image), group the smaller elements together

We've updated the wording of the template crediting in the Writing ruleset to make it clear that the template must be coded or embedded into AO3.

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Queries

Google Forms nominations

• Black Dynasty - Marilena Barbagallo: ALIX Brun/Scorpio Leclerc (Black Dynasty) — Should "ALIX Brun" be "Alix Brun"?
• Can't Think Straight: Yoon Jaehyuk/Han Garam — We ask that nominators use canonicals when nominating via form. Nominator, we're not sure what fandom this is. Is it "I Can't Think Straight (2008)"? Approving as "선 넘는 사이 | Can't Think Straight"
• Dragon Age (Video Games): Anders/Fenris/Hawke (Dragon Age VG), Anders/Justice/Hawke (Dragon Age VG) — Hawke is the player character and has a selectable gender. Does the nominator have a preference? If you do, it needs to be baked into the tag because you can't use your DNWs to specify a gender when requesting.
• LOVEMe Hard - Jerry Heil (Music Video): All tags — This song seems to be titled LOVE ME HARD, not LOVEMe Hard. Can the nominator clarify?
• Pearl Boy: All tags — We ask that nominators use canonicals when nominating via form. Nominator, we're not sure what fandom this is. Is it "조개소년 | Pearl Boy (Webcomic)"?
• Sasaki And Miyano: Miyano Yoshikazu/Sasaki Shuumei — Nominator, do you want the manga or anime? The canonical tags (which we would like spreadsheet nominators to copy/paste into the form when nominating) are 佐々木と宮野 | Sasaki to Miyano (Manga) ‎or 佐々木と宮野 | Sasaki to Miyano (Anime)
• Tasogare Auto Fokasu/Twilight Out Of Focus: All tags — We ask that nominators use canonicals when nominating via form. Nominator, we found two canonicals that we think might be the fandom you meant: "黄昏アウトフォーカス | Tasogare Out Focus (Anime)" or "黄昏アウトフォーカス | Tasogare Out Focus (Manga) -- is this the fandom the nominator intended? Would you like the anime or the manga?
• The Summer Hikaru Died: All tags — We ask that nominators use canonicals when nominating via form. Nominator, we're not sure what fandom this is. Is it "光が死んだ夏 | Hikaru ga Shinda Natsu | The Summer Hikaru Died (Manga)" or "光が死んだ夏 | Hikaru ga Shinda Natsu | The Summer Hikaru Died (Anime)" or something else?

Ao3 tagset nominations

• Caraval Series - Stephanie Garber: Solo: Julian (Caraval), Caspar & Julian Santos (Caraval) — It looks like other relationship nominations have "Julian Santos" listed as a character. Is this solo nomination for "Julian" referring to Julian Santos or a different Julian?
• Philza Hardcore S4 Lore: All tags — This fandom tag was made synonymous with the fandom DSMP at some point in the past week-ish, so future nominations need to be made under the fandom "Philza Hardcore Season 4 Lore (DFE)"
• Pocket Monsters SPECIAL | Pokemon Adventures: Crystal/Gold (Pokemon Adventures), Gold/Yellow (Pokemon Adventures) — Just letting you know that we rejected these and then added them back into the tagset as "Crystal/Gold (Pokemon SPECIAL)" and "Gold/Yellow (Pokemon SPECIAL)" to match the other tags in this fandom.
• 괴담에 떨어져도 출근을 해야 하는구나 - 백덕수 | Even If I Fall Into a Ghost Story I Still Have to Go to Work - Baek Deoksoo: All tags — Sorry nominator, these tags were accidentally rejected! We think they were probably fine? We can't see tags after we've rejected them. Please let us know what these tags were and we will add them into the tagset for you.

Rejected Tags

Google Forms nominations

• Crossover Fandom: Cassandra Cain & Creator's Choice of Adult Character — Sorry, nominator, but "Creator's Choice of [Character Type]" in Crossover Fandom counts as Creator's Choice of Fandom, which we don't allow in FIAB. Please pick a second fandom.
• Crossover Fandom: Dick Grayson & Creator's Choice of Adult Character — Sorry, nominator, but "Creator's Choice of [Character Type]" in Crossover Fandom counts as Creator's Choice of Fandom, which we don't allow in FIAB. Please pick a second fandom.
• Crossover Fandom: Jason Todd (DCU) & Creator's Choice of Adult Character — Sorry, nominator, but "Creator's Choice of [Character Type]" in Crossover Fandom counts as Creator's Choice of Fandom, which we don't allow in FIAB. Please pick a second fandom.
• Crossover Fandom: Reigen Arataka (MP100) & Creator's Choice of Child Character — Sorry, nominator, but "Creator's Choice of [Character Type]" in Crossover Fandom counts as Creator's Choice of Fandom, which we don't allow in FIAB. Please pick a second fandom.

Ao3 tagset nominations

• Arcane: League of Legends (Cartoon 2021): Jayce (League of Legends)/Mel Medarda/Viktor (League of Legends) (Arcane LoL) — We accepted this tag but we've since replaced it with "Jayce/Mel Medarda/Viktor (Arcane LoL)"
• Harry Potter - J. K. Rowling: WB: Morally Ambiguous Death Eaters or Order Members (HP - JKR) — This is a group, which makes it ineligible for a WB: tag, but it's also not a tag that we would accept as a Solo: tag, either because it's too much like a prompt. Nominator, what kind of worldbuilding are you looking for concerning morally ambiguous characters? What part of the canon setting or society are you hoping to see fleshed out in a gift?
• LOVECRAFT H. P. - Works: All tags including already accepted tags — Nominator, we accepted this fandom but on second thought we think this probably counts as an umbrella fandom, which we do not accept. Do all of Lovecraft's works take place in the same setting with the same worldbuilding/lore? Would "Cthulhu Mythos - H. P. Lovecraft" fit what you want better? Additionally, since we're querying anyway, we'd love an explanation of each of your WB: tags. If we don't hear from you, we will move your tag to The Outsider to the fandom "The Outsider - H. P. Lovecraft" and remove/reject all other tags.
• Murdoch Mysteries: solo: Violet Hart, Violet Hart & Llewellyn Watts, Jennifer "JJ" Jareau & Spencer Reid — We accidentally accepted these, but they're not disambiguated properly (and might not even be characters for the right fandom?) so we have removed them from the tagset.
• Thor (Movies): Amora & Loki (Marvel) and other tags disambiguated with "(Marvel)" — These were disambiguated incorrectly but we thought you might be confused about why, so here's an explanation: you selected the canonical (official) tags instead of writing a tag with a more specific disambiguation. Per the Nominations Guidelines, we need disambiguations that are clear about which specific fandom a tag is nominated under, so tags under this fandom should be disambiguated with "(Thor Movies)" or similar. We fixed your worldbuilding nominations to "(Thor Movies)" because we appreciate the attempt at disambiguating, but correcting all of your disambigs would have taken too much time so we rejected the ship tags. You can re-nominate via the form.
• X-Men (Comicverse): All tags — Our guidelines on specific fandoms says this: "Marvel comics may be nominated by title or under the name of the appropriate Marvel universe (Marvel 616, Marvel Ultimates, etc)" and we're pretty sure this isn't the title of a specific comic run, but instead is just a fandom for all Marvel 616 X-Men comics. If this is the case, you can re-nominate under the fandom Marvel 616 via tagset or form. If we're mistaken, please explain in a comment below and provide your nominations page link so we can add your tags for you manually instead of making you renominate.
• 백작가의 망나니가 되었다 - 유려한 | Lout of Count's Family | Trash of the Count's Family - Yulyeohan: Cale Henituse | Kim Rok Soo & Everyone (LCF) — We don't want "& Everyone" tags in the tagset because we feel it's unclear when combined with our rules about groups in tags. Would you prefer "Cale Henituse | Kim Rok Soo & Any Canon Characters (LCF)" or "Cale Henituse | Kim Rok Soo & Any Characters (LCF)"? (The first one will prevent you from getting Original Characters, the second will allow Original Characters.)
• 龍の国 ルーンファクトリー | Rune Factory: Guardians of Azuma (Video Game): Cuilang/Kaguya (Rune Factory) and other tags disambiguated with "(Rune Factory)" — These were disambiguated incorrectly but we thought you might be confused about why, so here's an explanation: you selected the canonical (official) tags instead of writing a tag with a more specific disambiguation. Per the Nominations Guidelines, we need disambiguations that are clear about which specific fandom a tag is nominated under, so tags under this fandom should be disambiguated with "(Rune Factory: GoA)" or similar. You can re-nominate via the form.

Comments

[lavenderandrue]

Not the nominator, but Can't Think Straight is a different manhwa that doesn't appear to have a canonical.

[(Anonymous)]

It looks like the suggested canonicals got swapped around between the Can't Think Straight and Pearl Boy questions.

[fic_in_a_box_mod]

Oops yes, they were next to each other on the query sheet and I fumbled that copy/paste. Thank you!

[fic_in_a_box_mod]

Oh, thank you, this is very helpful! We'll approve as 선 넘는 사이 | Can't Think Straight

[ambiguouslydisordered]

Dragon Age nommer here; I select just Hawke when I'm totally ok with either gender Hawke, so yes, I don't have a preference!

[fic_in_a_box_mod]

Great, we'll put those through in the next batch load!

[pitchblackrenegade]

Sorry about that. "Alix" shouldn't be in all caps, and the MV is "LOVE ME hard."

[fic_in_a_box_mod]

Thank you, these will be in the next batch load!

[callmesandyk]

Hi jj jareau & Spencer Reid are criminal minds, not murdoch mysteries. Violet hart & Llewellyn watts are all canon for murdoch mysteries.

[fic_in_a_box_mod]

Strange that the Criminal Minds tag was nominated under a different fandom, but either way the tags still weren't formatted correctly. They can be re-nominated with correct formatting, instructions for which are in the Nominations Guidelines.

[callmesandyk]

Great, thank you!

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[(Anonymous)]

LOVECRAFT H. P.- Works

I was under the impression that all of his works take place loosely in the same world; that being said, perhaps the Cthulhu Mythos - H. P. Lovecraft would fit better.

If you would prefer for me to renominate it, let me know!

As for the tags:

Nyarlathotep -> The soul and messanger of the outer gods.
Hastur -> The King in Yellow (an alien god worshipped by an alien species (Mi-Go), enemy to the outer gods)
Dreamlands -> an alternate dimension that can be entered when you dream
Elder Things -> an ancient race that came from space and stayed on Earth, up until its destruction (by Shoggoths)
Arkham -> imaginary town in New England, where several stories of Lovecraft's take place
Lovecraftian Entities -> this one is very vague, to allow for someone to use whatever Lovecraftian entity they want
Innsmouth -> another imaginary town in New England; this one is primarily inhabited by the Deep Ones
Necronomicon -> An ancient book filled with terrible knowledge

-Cail_Jei

[fic_in_a_box_mod]

Thank you, this was all very helpful! You seemed a little unsure about his works and the Cthulhu Mythos - H. P. Lovecraft tag, so I consulted with some other mods to make sure I wouldn't be accidentally sticking your stuff in a bad fandom. They agreed that Cthulhu Mythos - H. P. Lovecraft was a good fit, and helpfully would exclude a handful of Lovecraft's work that you probably don't want gifts of anyway (poetry, some essays, this kind of thing—unlikely to show up in a gift for you, but not impossible if requesting all of his works).

Instead of asking you to renominate, I'll process your tags manually via Dreamwidth to cause you less hassle—it's not your fault we accidentally accepted the tag when we should have. Unfortunately, there are a couple other problems with your tags.

Your tag for the Narrator of The Outsider is fine, and I will add it into the tagset under the Cthulu Mythos fandom: Solo: Narrator (The Outsider - H. P. Lovecraft) (Cthulu Mythos)

These WB tags meet the WB guidelines as laid out in the nominations guidelines—I am happy to accept them without much rephrasing:

WB: Dreamlands (Cthulu Mythos)
WB: Arkham Massachusetts (Cthulu Mythos)
WB: Innsmouth Massachusetts (Cthulu Mythos)
WB: Necronomicon (Cthulu Mythos)

(It turns out there's also an Innsmouth in England in one of Lovecraft's works, so we're specifying!)

These WB tags can't be accepted as-is because they don't meet the requirements for worldbuilding tags:

WB: Nyarlathotep
WB: Hastur
WB: Elder Things

These tags all name a character/entity or group of characters/entities, so they should actually be Solo: tags—this prevents us from ending up with both Solo: Elder Things and WB: Elder things in the tagset. I'm happy to switch these all over to Solo: tags for you, or you can think up some rephrasings that elaborate on what worldbuilding you actually want. I'm also willing to replace them with completely different worldbuilding tags. If you're the type of person who finds looking at lots of examples more helpful than reading a rules post, here is a link to a sheet with all of 2024's WB: tags on it.

Finally, Lovecraftian Entities & Original Human Character(s) (Lovecraft H. P. - Works) and WB: Lovecraftian Entities. "Lovecraftian Entities" is too broad/confusing to accept as a tag, unfortunately; several people I spoke to who'd be interested in creating for this fandom agreed they weren't sure what exactly was meant by the term enough to create for it. I would like to suggest that Solo: Original Human Characters (Cthulu Mythos) and optional details that describe the kind of Lovecraftian adventure you're interested in would do much better in this case. Otherwise you might pick a specific eldrich entity? For the WB: tag, I'm happy to take an alternate tag (WB: or otherwise) in its place.

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you very much for your thorough reply!

The Solo: Original Human Characters (Cthulhu Mythos) is a very good choice. The Lovecraftian Entities WB, could be replaced perhaps with WB: Celephaïs (Cthulhu Mythos)?

As for the the WB tags, I would change the WB: Nyarlathotep to Solo: Nyarlathotep, and WB: Hastur to Solo: Hastur, while for the Elder Things, perhaps WB: Pre-Human Civilazation (Elder Things) would make more sense?

Thank you again for your assistance!

[fic_in_a_box_mod]

WB: Celephaïs (Cthulhu Mythos) sounds great!

Disambiguating with "(Elder Things)" might be confusing to other participants since usually disambiguations are the titles of specific media and we wouldn't want a potential creator going looking for a Lovecraft story called "Elder Things" not knowing that they're looking for At the Mountains of Madness. But we can put "Elder Things" in the tag for sure, I definitely see why this would need that for clarity!

How about WB: Elder Things' Civilization on Pre-Human Earth (Cthulu Mythos)?

[(Anonymous)]

It sounds great!

[fic_in_a_box_mod]

Hooray! I've rejected your lingering tags and removed the ones we accidentally accepted. All your replacement tags will be in the tagset with the next batch upload, probably sometime later today.

[mizuka]

Hi there! I was the nominator for both of the Korean fandoms mentioned in this post.

For "백작가의 망나니가 되었다 - 유려한 | Lout of Count's Family | Trash of the Count's Family - Yulyeohan", I'll go with the tag "Cale Henituse | Kim Rok Soo & Any Canon Characters (LCF)".

For "괴담에 떨어져도 출근을 해야 하는구나 - 백덕수 | Even If I Fall Into a Ghost Story I Still Have to Go to Work - Baek Deoksoo", these were the tags I had submitted:
Solo: Kim Soleum (GDCG)
Baek Saheon & Go Yeongeun & Kim Soleum (GDCG)
Baek Saheon/Kim Soleum (GDCG)
Braun | Tuesday Quiz Show Host/Kim Soleum (GDCG)
Baek Saheon & Kim Soleum (GDCG)
Braun | Tuesday Quiz Show Host & Kim Soleum (GDCG)
Kim Soleum & Lee Jaheon (GDCG)
Agent Choi & Kim Soleum (GDCG)
Kim Soleum & Any Canon Characters (GDCG)
Agent Choi/Kim Soleum (GDCG)

[fic_in_a_box_mod]

Thank you, these will all be in the tagset in the next batch load!

[pressitout]

Hey there, I’m the nominator for 魔男のイチ | Madan no Ichi | Ichi the Witch (Manga) and I accidentally spelled something wrong. For Gokuraku/Ichi (Ici the Witch) it should be instead

Gokuraku/Ichi (Ichi The Witch)

Apologies! Thank you!

[fic_in_a_box_mod]

Thanks, we'll get this fixed up soon!

[(Anonymous)]

For Pearl Boy, yes it looks like that is the Korean name from the wiki. I validated and this is what it is on ao3 currently: 조개소년 | Pearl Boy (Webcomic)

[fic_in_a_box_mod]

Thanks, this will be in the next batchload!

[(Anonymous)]

Sasaki and Miyano = are 佐々木と宮野 | Sasaki to Miyano (Manga) ‎

Sorry, thank you for validating

[fic_in_a_box_mod]

Thanks, this will be in the next batchload!

[(Anonymous)]

昏アウトフォーカス | Tasogare Out Focus (Manga) for Twilight Out of Focus. Thanks

[fic_in_a_box_mod]

Thanks, this will be in the next batchload!

[(Anonymous)]

光が死んだ夏 | Hikaru ga Shinda Natsu | The Summer Hikaru Died (Manga)

For the summer Hikaru Died.

Thank you!

[fic_in_a_box_mod]

Thanks, this will be in the next batchload!